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Episode 164: Harlem Shootings, Defund Delusion, and the Truth Behind the Mosque No. 7 Case with Randy Jurgensen

On this episode, Bo speaks with Randy Jurgensen, the legendary NYPD detective and Korean War hero, for a no-nonsense conversation about crime in New York City, why defund the police is not the answer, and what it takes to keep the streets safe. Bo and Randy break down recent headlines from the Bronx and Harlem, the fear many New Yorkers feel on subways and sidewalks, and the reality cops face every day. Randy recalls his path from paratrooper to undercover work in narcotics, his role in the French Connection era, the case that inspired Cruising, and the hard truth behind the 1972 Mosque No. 7 murder of Officer Phil Cardillo. He shares why he refused a high honor for decades, how politics can devastate a department, and why supporting the NYPD is essential to the survival of the city we love.

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